Comments on: My Rant on Loren Feldman http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/ Shey's blog — discussing social media, business, blogging, design, and more. Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:16:43 +0000 hourly 1 By: ugg boots http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-1311 ugg boots Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:48:33 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-1311 Here elaborates the matter not only extensively but also detailly .I support the write's unique point.It is useful and benefit to your daily life.You can go thosetp <a href="http://www.cheap-nikeshox.com/nike-shox-R5.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cheap-nikeshox.com/nike-shox-R5.html</a> sits to know more relate things.They are strongly recommended by friends.Personally Here elaborates the matter not only extensively but also detailly .I support the write's unique point.It is useful and benefit to your daily life.You can go thosetp http://www.cheap-nikeshox.com/nike-shox-R5.html sits to know more relate things.They are strongly recommended by friends.Personally

]]> By: Bill Andreas http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-1284 Bill Andreas Tue, 18 May 2010 11:09:34 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-1284 So why do some still defend this guy? I don’t know, I can’t say for sure. Yeah he has the right to say whatever he wants — but when you defend the actions of someone who’s being an idiot, what does that say about you?<br><A HREF="http://peninggi-badan.com" rel="nofollow">tinggi badan</A> So why do some still defend this guy? I don’t know, I can’t say for sure. Yeah he has the right to say whatever he wants — but when you defend the actions of someone who’s being an idiot, what does that say about you?
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]]> By: Bill Andreas http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-1278 Bill Andreas Tue, 04 May 2010 08:59:07 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-1278 Not only is he mocking Black folks with a horrible stereotype — he uses a historically derogatory label — and please don’t counter back with the "Well Black people use the N-word all the time" argument<A HREF="http://peninggi-badan.com" rel="nofollow">cara meninggikan badan</A> Not only is he mocking Black folks with a horrible stereotype — he uses a historically derogatory label — and please don’t counter back with the “Well Black people use the N-word all the time” argumentcara meninggikan badan

]]> By: Bill Andreas http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-1277 Bill Andreas Thu, 29 Apr 2010 09:30:57 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-1277 If he’s so creative, so intelligent, so awesome — why couldn’t he have found a less idiotic way to bring his point across? I’ll tell you why: there’s no talent in being offensive. There’s no talent in gaining fame at the expense of others. <A HREF="http://peninggi-badan.com" rel="nofollow">cara menambah tinggi badan</A> If he’s so creative, so intelligent, so awesome — why couldn’t he have found a less idiotic way to bring his point across? I’ll tell you why: there’s no talent in being offensive. There’s no talent in gaining fame at the expense of others. cara menambah tinggi badan

]]> By: Singapore SEO http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-714 Singapore SEO Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:57:34 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-714 Real nice video move. Well, freedom of speech has its limit to certain extent too. Picking on a race of people isn't freedom of speech, that is troublemaking. Real nice video move. Well, freedom of speech has its limit to certain extent too. Picking on a race of people isn't freedom of speech, that is troublemaking.

]]> By: The Truth of Race is a Lie | introspective snapshots http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-292 The Truth of Race is a Lie | introspective snapshots Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:22:02 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-292 [...] easy, or should be easy, for us to point out racist stereotypes and blatant forms of racial discrimination. Where things become more difficult is identifying areas [...] [...] easy, or should be easy, for us to point out racist stereotypes and blatant forms of racial discrimination. Where things become more difficult is identifying areas [...]

]]> By: Are You Desensitized to Racism? | introspective snapshots http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-206 Are You Desensitized to Racism? | introspective snapshots Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:56:37 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-206 [...] the back of my mind, I thought something like this might happen, especially in light of recent events with Loren Feldman and with the surprising amount of support many were showing him.  It was a shock, to me, to [...] [...] the back of my mind, I thought something like this might happen, especially in light of recent events with Loren Feldman and with the surprising amount of support many were showing him.  It was a shock, to me, to [...]

]]> By: Nathan http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-377 Nathan Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:50:52 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-377 Yeah, without a link, I can't really evaluate the "facts," other than this: Feldman had a deal with Verizon; some stuff surfaced and caused a ruckus; Verizon pulled out. You seem to be saying that allowing this to happen means that we'll never have edgy comedy again. I don't buy it. Yeah, without a link, I can’t really evaluate the “facts,” other than this: Feldman had a deal with Verizon; some stuff surfaced and caused a ruckus; Verizon pulled out. You seem to be saying that allowing this to happen means that we’ll never have edgy comedy again. I don’t buy it.

]]> By: PurpleCar http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-390 PurpleCar Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:29:46 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-390 I'm happy for this to come to light (a year later!) because I'm discovering more black voices on the net. And if you think that's 'racist' of me, you don't understand the role power has in any culture. <br><br>The other day on Plurk Scoble wondered why there seemed to be more women on Plurk than Twitter. What ensued were endless sexist jokes that offended and disgusted me. Maybe you white guys out there can imagine what that feels like, being reduced to someone who makes tech decisions based on colors or something inane like that. <br><br>There are things that I say to my friends of all races and they say to me that would make any stranger's skin crawl, but not one of us would say them 'out loud.' Perhaps Loren thought he was pushing the envelope, I don't know. Joking with friends at home is fine, but there are some struggles that just aren't over, and no public jokes about them are acceptable. I’m happy for this to come to light (a year later!) because I’m discovering more black voices on the net. And if you think that’s ‘racist’ of me, you don’t understand the role power has in any culture.

The other day on Plurk Scoble wondered why there seemed to be more women on Plurk than Twitter. What ensued were endless sexist jokes that offended and disgusted me. Maybe you white guys out there can imagine what that feels like, being reduced to someone who makes tech decisions based on colors or something inane like that.

There are things that I say to my friends of all races and they say to me that would make any stranger’s skin crawl, but not one of us would say them ‘out loud.’ Perhaps Loren thought he was pushing the envelope, I don’t know. Joking with friends at home is fine, but there are some struggles that just aren’t over, and no public jokes about them are acceptable.

]]> By: Shey http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-386 Shey Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:25:35 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-386 It's definitely a fine line. While I believe most folks have good intentions, sometimes they fail to consider how things come across to other people -- they end up setting themselves up. It’s definitely a fine line. While I believe most folks have good intentions, sometimes they fail to consider how things come across to other people — they end up setting themselves up.

]]> By: leigh http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-385 leigh Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:08:27 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-385 I don't think Kawasaki's intent was to slander, but i thought his comment was stupid. Sure if he's at a dinner party telling a story that's one thing, but context is everything and when one is a public figure, rightly or wrongly, you have to be more cautious about what and how you say something. I don’t think Kawasaki’s intent was to slander, but i thought his comment was stupid. Sure if he’s at a dinner party telling a story that’s one thing, but context is everything and when one is a public figure, rightly or wrongly, you have to be more cautious about what and how you say something.

]]> By: Shey http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-389 Shey Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:47:57 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-389 Vince, oh I know.<br><br>I only found out about these videos a few weeks ago. It's shocking that the recognition has come this late but it's better late than never. Vince, oh I know.

I only found out about these videos a few weeks ago. It’s shocking that the recognition has come this late but it’s better late than never.

]]> By: vdegeorge http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-388 vdegeorge Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:43:18 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-388 The whole thing was embarrassing (and sickening) to watch. If he truly has that perception of the black community, then I feel sorry for his ignorance. He must live a miserable life being so detached from reality. <br><br>I'm also glad he was exposed for who he really is and Corvida took the stand she did, opening eyes and ears. The biggest shock to me through all this has been the fact that only recently was there a big ruckus about this guy and puppets. Puppets. THIS was out there, but people focused on puppets. Crazy. The whole thing was embarrassing (and sickening) to watch. If he truly has that perception of the black community, then I feel sorry for his ignorance. He must live a miserable life being so detached from reality.

I’m also glad he was exposed for who he really is and Corvida took the stand she did, opening eyes and ears. The biggest shock to me through all this has been the fact that only recently was there a big ruckus about this guy and puppets. Puppets. THIS was out there, but people focused on puppets. Crazy.

]]> By: Shey http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-367 Shey Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:18:43 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-367 Great quote. Thanks for commenting Great quote. Thanks for commenting

]]> By: wvrearvumirr http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-366 wvrearvumirr Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:16:54 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-366 Personally, I couldn't watch the video all the way through. In my lifetime I have found that anyone that needs to drop that many "F" bombs to get their thoughts across....doesn't have a thought worth projecting.<br><br>“Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.”<br><br>Stay true to yourself! Personally, I couldn’t watch the video all the way through. In my lifetime I have found that anyone that needs to drop that many “F” bombs to get their thoughts across….doesn’t have a thought worth projecting.

“Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.”

Stay true to yourself!

]]> By: swhitley http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-376 swhitley Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:23:36 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-376 Mark, I don't see how there can be any "facts" beyond the video itself. It's clearly in poor taste. The idea that it was meant to highlight an issue with the lack of black tech bloggers is ludicrous. Don't defend it. Loren does some funny stuff. This crossed the line. There's no excuse and no defense for it. I think the biggest mistake here is that he never sincerely apologized. If you don't own your mistake then no one can forgive you. Mark, I don’t see how there can be any “facts” beyond the video itself. It’s clearly in poor taste. The idea that it was meant to highlight an issue with the lack of black tech bloggers is ludicrous. Don’t defend it. Loren does some funny stuff. This crossed the line. There’s no excuse and no defense for it. I think the biggest mistake here is that he never sincerely apologized. If you don’t own your mistake then no one can forgive you.

]]> By: gregorylent http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-387 gregorylent Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:13:56 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-387 any talk about race from anyone is racism any talk about race from anyone is racism

]]> By: Shey http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-382 Shey Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:51:10 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-382 Sorry if that`s how it came across -- wasn`t my intention. Sorry if that`s how it came across — wasn`t my intention.

]]> By: Shey http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-384 Shey Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:47:22 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-384 It didn't sound like Kawasaki was trying to mock or slander Jews, to me. Thanks for verifying this Dave. It didn’t sound like Kawasaki was trying to mock or slander Jews, to me. Thanks for verifying this Dave.

]]> By: Mark 'Rizzn' Hopkins http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-381 Mark 'Rizzn' Hopkins Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:44:57 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-381 You also clearly contradicted those statements elsewhere in the post. I apologize for my confusion. You also clearly contradicted those statements elsewhere in the post. I apologize for my confusion.

]]> By: Rahsheen http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-373 Rahsheen Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:34:38 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-373 The difference is, those guys are actually funny. <br><br>Everyone keeps complaining about how this moron is being censored. He's not being censored. He can go peddle his crap anywhere he wants. Verizon just wanted no parts of the guy. You can't blame them. It's strictly business.<br><br>This is one company, with one service, who decides they don't want to carry the guy being called racist by a lot of folks. The difference is, those guys are actually funny.

Everyone keeps complaining about how this moron is being censored. He’s not being censored. He can go peddle his crap anywhere he wants. Verizon just wanted no parts of the guy. You can’t blame them. It’s strictly business.

This is one company, with one service, who decides they don’t want to carry the guy being called racist by a lot of folks.

]]> By: Shey http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-380 Shey Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:31:18 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-380 I stated clearly that:<br><br>a) I wasn't calling him a racist<br>b) I never said he had NO talent (just that his crappy work didn't involve using talent) I stated clearly that:

a) I wasn’t calling him a racist
b) I never said he had NO talent (just that his crappy work didn’t involve using talent)

]]> By: Mark 'Rizzn' Hopkins http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-375 Mark 'Rizzn' Hopkins Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:28:37 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-375 It's not, if you actually read up on the facts of the case. That's why it's looking like a stretch to you, most likely.<br><br>Everyone is responding off emotion with this one. I've hashed out the facts a million places as this conversation has migrated across the blogosphere, so I won't do it again here. <br><br>Bottom line is that, yeah, you're paraphrasing what I said a bit, but is essentially right. It’s not, if you actually read up on the facts of the case. That’s why it’s looking like a stretch to you, most likely.

Everyone is responding off emotion with this one. I’ve hashed out the facts a million places as this conversation has migrated across the blogosphere, so I won’t do it again here.

Bottom line is that, yeah, you’re paraphrasing what I said a bit, but is essentially right.

]]> By: dave http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-383 dave Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:27:23 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-383 Kawasaki has told me the story of how he learned how to sell in the diamond business in L.A. and he says it with the greatest of respect. He also sprinkles Yiddish through his conversation, and he gets it right. He's does a pretty good impersonation of a Jew, for a goy. Kawasaki has told me the story of how he learned how to sell in the diamond business in L.A. and he says it with the greatest of respect. He also sprinkles Yiddish through his conversation, and he gets it right. He’s does a pretty good impersonation of a Jew, for a goy.

]]> By: Mark 'Rizzn' Hopkins http://www.sheysmith.com/2008/07/08/my-rant-on-loren-feldman/comment-page-1/#comment-379 Mark 'Rizzn' Hopkins Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:25:52 +0000 http://www.sheysmith.com/?p=65#comment-379 Everything you just said here in that comment is true. It doesn't prove anything I just said wrong.<br><br>Just because you don't get the larger point doesn't make Loren a racist. It means he didn't do a good job making his point. It also doesn't mean he's talentless, either. Many people find him funny for things other than just this one video (in fact, most people find him funny for things other than that one video). Everything you just said here in that comment is true. It doesn’t prove anything I just said wrong.

Just because you don’t get the larger point doesn’t make Loren a racist. It means he didn’t do a good job making his point. It also doesn’t mean he’s talentless, either. Many people find him funny for things other than just this one video (in fact, most people find him funny for things other than that one video).

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