Frienderati: Making it Easy to Find Popular Inactives

cobwebsGuy Kawasaki has recently come up with a new Alltop list of FriendFeeders called Frienderati.  It’s very unclear as to how this list was generated; but one thing’s for sure — it wasn’t based on how active they are.  Tony Hung doesn’t get it either.

One of the really great aspects of FriendFeed is being able to have discussions with a wide variety of people.  People who are actively expressing their ideas and revealing their thoughts — producing a mind provoking array of conversations and debates.  My biggest issue with the list is that it elevates many accounts who provide nothing but shared content.  In my eyes, there’s no difference between those FriendFeed accounts and their MyBlogLog lifestream.

My comments on Chris Brogan’s post on Frienderati sums up my opinion:

I think it’s a bad way to help new folks find friends because probably half the people on that list don’t participate FriendFeed at all or have minimal usage — including yourself. They have FriendFeed setup to pull in their activities from others sites, but there’s little to no participation from many of them (not all).

How many times do we have to tell folks to participate in communities if you want to get value? The value isn’t in the content they are sharing, it’s found by interacting with the community and sharing opinions and starting discussions.

… I’m not saying that you HAVE to comment and like stuff in FriendFeed — you can just read or use it anyway you want to. But I wouldn’t recommend that new readers follow someone who only pulls in shared content.

Chances are there are others around who are having discussions around that same content — which is where I believe the value is.

So am I overreacting?  Let’s look at a some of the Frienderati’s activity in the past week and you decide; staring from the top (and skipping a lot of names — this is by no means a perfectly representative sample).  Keep in mind, the some entries pulled in automatically count as a comment, such as Disqus, StumbleUpon notes, Del.icio.us notes, etc.:

It seems fitting to stop at Guy.

Nothing personal against any of these people — I’m just using their examples to make a point.  Some of them may very well use FriendFeed everyday to just read and share content. However, I wouldn’t recommend users to follow those accounts as they would get bored pretty quickly.

I think new FriendFeed users should read Robert Scoble’s post on FriendFeed participation and how to find the value in FriendFeed.  While you’re at it, read my posts on the different types of FriendFeed users as well as interesting ways they can use FriendFeed.

What’s the value in FriendFeed for you?  Is it just pulling in other users’ blog posts and other shares? Isn’t the interaction and the conversation more valuable?

Tags: community, conversation, friendfeed, Social Media

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  • July 14, 2008 at 5:41 pm Hutch Carpenter
    Shey - glad you wrote this. I was thinking of exactly the same blog post. Just going to Like yours instead.
  • July 14, 2008 at 5:44 pm Shey
    Thanks Hutch -- I think you could still write a post on it -- and do a more thorough analysis. Only had 20 mins to write it: http://twitter.com/shey/statuses/858188423
  • July 14, 2008 at 5:45 pm Marco (aureliusmaximus)
    lol was not planning on writing anything but had the same thought - glad you put something together - hope you do likewise hutch, would be interested to hear your thoughts
  • July 14, 2008 at 5:47 pm Louis Gray
    I think it is clear that lists like this do not adequately capture the breadth of people using the service, or using it in participation mode. The best way to respond is to either ignore, or make your own lists.
  • July 14, 2008 at 5:48 pm acedanger
    Hutch - copy & paste, amirite? :D j/k, you should change the author's name too!
  • July 14, 2008 at 5:54 pm Brian Daniel Eisenberg
    I think we were all thinking of writing this post. Thanks Shey!
  • July 14, 2008 at 6:00 pm Shey
    @Brian you're right *blows smoke of super-fast typing fingers*
  • July 14, 2008 at 6:01 pm mike "glemak" dunn
    well done shey - here's the ff thread re: chris' post from earlier today for integration purposes - http://friendfeed.com/e/ba3fba8c-4cad-55d2-3ad9-156c61b62aed/Alltop-Launches-Frienderati-to-Help-You-Find/
  • July 14, 2008 at 6:01 pm Anthony Citrano
    I gotta say I sorta cringe every time I see another list of "top" Friendfeeders. I enjoy it for its flatness and would hate to see it go that way. I'm the opposite: active but unpopular. How to fix? A personality transplant? ;)
  • July 14, 2008 at 6:06 pm Brian Daniel Eisenberg
    Totally agree Anthony. In FF we are all equal opportunity commenters and likers. (are those even words?). That is to say until Winer or Scoble block you. (:
  • July 14, 2008 at 6:09 pm Rahsheen™
    I tend to see the same names in my FriendFeed participating and contributing, but the people that end up on these Top lists are folks I dont' think I even follow or have ever heard of. This tells me that the people creating these lists aren't doing anything on FF either. Great article, Shey.
  • July 14, 2008 at 6:13 pm Shey
    @Anthony I think as FriendFeed becomes more popular you'll find more people interested in the same stuff you are. Right now, tech rules -- but that's slowly changing http://www.louisgray.com/live/2008/07/friendfeeds-changing-tapestry-of-users.html
  • July 14, 2008 at 6:39 pm Anthony Citrano
    yeah it's been a double-edged sword, the growth. on one hand, it shrinks the chances that smaller feeds can capture attention/catalyze conversation because of the fire-hose aspect of things. on the other, the spectrum of interests grows.
  • July 14, 2008 at 7:28 pm Shey
    @Hutch maybe you can also highlight some of the better examples to follow as well
  • July 14, 2008 at 7:31 pm Shawn Farner
    Nice post Shey. I didn't even realize that most of those users aren't doing jack on friendfeed. Perhaps more of the A-List back-watching we're hearing so much about lately ;)
  • July 14, 2008 at 8:13 pm sergiooo
    Good post, Shey.
  • July 14, 2008 at 8:18 pm Shey
    Thanks Shawn and sergio
  • July 14, 2008 at 11:01 pm Susan Beebe
    Love the title!!
  • July 15, 2008 at 4:41 am Sprague D
    Excellent post.

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